in #KillieStories July 28, 2018
We take a delve into the archives with club historian John Livingston to look back at our League Cup meetings with Queen's Park.
1948-49 – Qualifying Round (B Division) Section B18/9/1948 – Kilmarnock 3 (McLaren, Clive, Lambie) Queen’s Park 3 (Thyne (og), Aitken, McAuley) attendance: 9,365
Killie: Purdie, Mennie, Hood, Thyne, Bowman, Miller, Hunter, McLeish, Lambie, Clive, McLaren.
Queen’s: Simpson, Little, McCulloch, Bell, Ross, Stewart, Cunningham, McAuley, Aitken, Gunn, R. Brown.
9/10/1948 – Queen’s Park 2 (Boyd, Cunningham) Kilmarnock 2 (Clive, McLaren) attendance: 15,000
Queen’s: Simpson, Little, Carmichael, Bell, Ross, Douglas, Boyd, McAuley, Gunn, Aitken, Cunningham.
Killie: MacFarlane, Mennie, Lamont, Hamill, Bowman, Miller, Anderson, Clive, Lambie, McLaren, Drury.
The two games between the clubs ended in draws, with the first at Rugby Park seeing Kilmarnock make a stirring comeback from being 3-0 down after 37 minutes. Indeed, after getting level by midway through the second half, had it not been for the woodwork and a couple of outstanding saves by 17 years old Ronnie Simpson in the Spiders goal, Killie would have won.
In the return meeting at Hampden Park, Killie led twice, but after Queen’s got back level for the second occasion in the latter stages of the second half, they too could have gone on to win but for some poor finishing.
It was Alloa Athletic who qualified for the knock-out stages by winning the B Division Section B with 8 points, with Queen’s Park (7 points), Kilmarnock (6 points), and East Stirlingshire (3 points) in their wake.
1949-50 – Qualifying Round (B Division) Section D
17/8/1949 – Kilmarnock 2 (Aitken, Clive) Queen’s Park 0 attendance: 12,219
Killie: Jock Brown, Hood, Lamont, Doig, Thyne, Middlemass, Feeney, Aitken, Clive, Hardy, McLaren.
Queen’s: Ramsay, More, Carmichael, Letham, Ross, Bell, Boyd, McAuley, J.M. Brown, Hastie, Cunningham.
31/8/1949 – Queen’s Park 3 (Cunningham 2 (1 pen), R. Brown) Kilmarnock 1 (Paton) attendance: 8,000
Queen’s: Ramsay, More, Carmichael, Letham, Ross, Bell, Boyd, McAuley, Douglas, Cunningham, R. Brown.
Killie: Calder, Hood, Lamont, Doig, Thyne, Middlemass, Hardy, Paton, Reid, McLaren, Clive.
For the second successive season, the clubs were in the same B Division qualifying Section, with each of them winning their home game against the other.
Killie were actually a goal ahead at Hampden Park, but a dubiously awarded penalty got Queen’s level before the Killie defence fell apart in the closing stages. The winners of Section D were Dunfermline Athletic (10 points), ahead of Queen’s Park (6 points), followed by St. Johnstone and Kilmarnock (both four points).
1957-58 – Qualifying Round Section 4
17/8/1957 – Kilmarnock 3 (Beattie, Taggart, Harvey) Queen’s Park 1 (McEwan) attendance: 13,587
Killie: Neil, Collins, J. Stewart, R. Stewart, Toner, Taggart, Muir, Harvey, Mays, Beattie, Burns.
Queen’s: Ferguson, Harnett, Pettigrew, Cromar, Keir, Robb, McKinven, Omand, McEwan, Devine, Lindsay. Referee: H. Phillips (Wishaw)
31/8/1957 – Kilmarnock 2 (Curlett, Mays (pen)) Queen’s Park 2 (McKinven, Lindsay) attendance: 5,500
Queen’s: Ferguson, Campbell, Hastie, Cromar, Keir, Chalmers, McKinven, Omand, McQueen, Devine, Lindsay.
Killie: Jas. Brown, Collins, J. Stewart, R. Stewart, Toner, Taggart, Curlett, Beattie, Mays, Black, Burns. Referee: R. Morris (Falkirk)
This is the only ever occasion that the two clubs have met in the competition whilst both were in the top Division of the Scottish League.
In both games, it was Queens who took the lead, but Killie came back to win the Rugby Park encounter, whilst they twice had to come back from being a goal behind to get a draw at Hampden.
Kilmarnock, under the guidance of their new manager Willie Waddell, ended up as Section 4 winners, being unbeaten in their 6 games with a total of 9 points from 3 wins and 3 draws.
Queen’s ended in bottom spot, taking 3 points from 3 draws and 3 defeats. In between the pair were Hearts (7 points) and Dundee (5 points). Kilmarnock went on to meet Rangers in the Quarter-Finals, but after winning 2-1 at Rugby Park in the first leg, they lost 3-1 at Ibrox to go out on a 4-3 aggregate.
1973-74 – Qualifying Round Section 5
18/8/1973 – Kilmarnock 2 (Morrison, Smith) Queen’s Park 0 attendance: 2,591
Killie: Stewart, Whyte, Robertson, McDicken, Rodman, Maxwell, McSherry, Smith, Morrison, Cameron (J. McCulloch), Sheed. Sub not used: Stevenson
Queen’s: Lowrie, Dougan, McGowan, Gibson, C. Thomson, Bowie (McLaughlin), Fallis, Borland, Wylie, McNaughton (Colgan), Dickson. Referee: R. Marshall (Clydebank)
25/8/1973 – Queen’s Park 1 (McNaughton) Kilmarnock 1 (Sheed) attendance: 1,292
Queen’s: Lowrie, Dougan, McGowan, Gibson, C. Thomson, Bowie, Fallis, Borland, Wylie, McNaughton, Dickson Subs: Soutar, F. Thomson.
Killie: Stewart, Whyte, Robertson, McDicken, Rodman, Maxwell, McSherry, Smith, Morrison, Sheed, Stevenson. Subs not used: McGovern, J. McCulloch. Referee: R.B. Valentine (Dundee)
Relegated to Division 2 at the end of the previous season, Kilmarnock got off to the worst possible start by losing their first game in Section 5 against East Stirlingshire.
However, they went on to take 8 points from their next 5 games (3 wins and 2 draws) to win the Section, finishing ahead of East Stirlingshire (7 points), Hamilton Accies (5 points) and Queen’s Park (4 points).
In the 2nd Round (last 16), they beat St. Johnstone 3-2 on aggregate (A 0-1 H 3-1 a.e.t.), then Albion Rovers in the Quarter-Finals 5-4 on aggregate (A 0-2 H 5-2) before unfortunately losing 1-0 to Division 1 club Dundee (the eventual winners) in the Semi-Final, which was played under generator-run floodlights at Hampden Park in front of a very small crowd of 4,682 during the energy crisis caused by the miners’ strike in late November, early December 1973, which eventually led to a three-day working week for many industries that lasted well into March the following year.
1974-75 – Qualifying Round Section 6
17/8/1974 – Queen’s Park 0 Kilmarnock 2 (Fleming 2) attendance: 1,559
Queen’s: Cameron, Dougan, F. Thomson, Bowie, McDonald, C. Thomson, Inglis, McGill, Wylie, Campbell, Colgan. Subs not used: McKay, Barr
Killie: Stewart, Maxwell, Robertson, I. McCulloch, Rodman, McDicken, Cook, Fleming, Fallis, Sheed (McSherry), Smith. Sub not used: Whyte Referee: A.F.J. Webster (Larbert)
24/8/1974 – Kilmarnock 6 (Rodman, Fleming 2, Morrison, Smith, Cook) Queen’s Park 0 attendance: 3,300
Killie: Stewart, Maxwell, Robertson, I. McCulloch, Rodman, McDicken, Cook, Fleming, Morrison, Sheed, Smith. Subs not used: Whyte, Fallis
Queen’s: Cameron, Barr (Wylie), F. Thomson, McLaughlin, Currie, Bowie (Campbell), Inglis, McGill, McNaughton, C. Thomson, Colgan. Referee: J.W. Paterson (Bothwell)
Despite winning promotion back to Division 1 after just one season in the bottom tier, Kilmarnock were still drawn in a Section with Division 2 opposition.
They came out comfortably on top of Section 6 with 11 points from 6 games – the only point dropped coming in a 1-1 draw at Montrose. They completed the “double” over Queen’s in the competition for the first time, scoring 8 goals without reply. They met Hibernian in the Quarter-Finals, but lost 7-4 on aggregate (H 3-3 A 1-4).
1982-83 – Qualifying Round Section 8
21/8/1982 – Queen’s Park 0 Kilmarnock 2 (S. McLean (pen), McGivern) attendance: 1,005
Queen’s: Atkins, McFarlane, Dickson, Rennie, Woods, McNiven, Crawley, Graham, Nicholson (Chalmers), Grant, Gilmour. Sub not used: Cook.
Killie: McCulloch, McDicken, Robertson, J. Clark, Armstrong, P. Clarke (I. Bryson), McGivern, S. McLean (MacLeod), Bourke, Mauchlen, Gallagher. Referee: B. McGinlay (Balfron)
1/9/1982 – Kilmarnock 5 (Bourke 2, S. McLean, Gallagher, Mauchlen) Queen’s Park 1 (Gilmour) attendance: 1,200
Killie: McCulloch, McDicken, Robertson, J. Clark, McClurg, P. Clarke (Mauchlen), McGivern, MacLeod, Bourke, S. McLean (I. Bryson), Gallagher.
Queen’s: Atkins, McFarlane, Dickson, Rennie, Woods, McNiven, Crawley, Graham, Grant, Verrecchia, Gilmour. Subs: Chalmers, Cook Referee: R.R. Cuthill (Winchburgh)
Once again, Kilmarnock had just gained promotion back to the top tier (Premier Division) at the end of the previous campaign, and opened the new season drawn in the same Qualifying Section as Queen’s Park.
Kilmarnock again completed the “double” over the Spiders in the Section 8 which they won with 9 points, ahead of Berwick Rangers (6 points), Queen’s Park (5 points) and Hamilton Accies (4 points).
To qualify for the Quarter-Finals, Kilmarnock still had to play-off against Cowdenbeath, who had won Section 9, beating Meadowbank Thistle 3-0 in a single play-off after they both had finished level on points and with identical goal differences.
The play-off games with Cowdenbeath were played on Monday and Wednesday evenings, and Killie just squeezed through by 4-3 on penalties after a 1-1 aggregate draw. They had won 1-0 in the 1st leg at home but lost 1-0 a.e.t. in the 2nd leg at Central Park – a game in which they missed two penalties in the normal 90 minutes! In the Quarter-Finals though, Kilmarnock lost by an embarrassing 12-1 aggregate score to Rangers (H 1-6 A 0-6).
1983-84 – 2nd Round
1st Leg: 24/8/1983 – Queen’s Park 3 (Gilmour 2 (1pen), Grant) Kilmarnock 2 (J. Clark 2) attendance: 702
Queen’s: Ross, Hunter (Heron), Loughran, Woods, Brannigan, McNiven, Ward (Shearer), Graham, Crooks, Grant, Gilmour.
Killie: McCulloch, Robertson, Cockburn, J. Clark, P. Clarke, R. Clark, McGivern, MacLeod, Gallagher, McDicken, I. Bryson (Simpson). Sub not used: Cuthbertson. Referee: I.R. Cathcart (Bridge of Allan)
2nd Leg: 27/8/1983 – Kilmarnock 3 (McGivern 2, McDicken) Queen’s Park 1 (Gilmour) attendance: 1,506
Killie: McCulloch, Robertson, Cockburn, J. Clark, P. Clarke, R. Clark, McGivern, MacLeod, Gallagher, McDicken, I. Bryson. Subs not used: Simpson, Cuthbertson.
Queen’s: Ross, Hunter, Loughran (Shearer), Woods, Brannigan, McNiven, Barr, Graham, Crooks (Fraser), Grant, Gilmour. Referee: D.S. Downie (Edinburgh) Aggregate: 5-4 to Kilmarnock
The original format of the competition had been getting chopped and changed “to liven it up” for over 10 years, and in the 1983-84 season, there was another attempt.
The opening couple of rounds involved a two-legged knock-out system before reverting to a 3rd Round which saw the last 16 teams play in 4 Sections of 4 teams playing home and away, with the 4 winners of each Section meeting in the two-legged Semi-Finals to determine the Finalists.
Kilmarnock were drawn against Queen’s Park in the two-legged 2nd Round, losing 3-2 at Hampden Park, and after going a goal behind in the 2nd leg at home, they recovered to win 3-1 and go through on a 5-4 aggregate.
They were drawn in a tough Section 4 in the 3rd Round, finishing as runners-up in the Section with 7 points, just behind Celtic (9 points) and ahead of Hibernian (6 points) and Airdrieonians (2 points).